STAY AWAY FROM PAY TO PLAY / FEEDBACK

The pay-to-play company, Afton Live (formerly Big Time Entertainment) has a feedback page with hundreds of happy musicians who've worked with Afton. Never mind that they are just plucked from old emails and that many of the original "happy" bands have since decided Big Time wasn't such a great experience. Never being people not to acknowledge a good idea when we see one, like Afton and their clipped emails, we've decided to share all the comments that have come in with myspace friend requests. Some of them were so good we started copying them as just a reminder that musicians really do care about this problem. We're listing them here as evidence that we are not the only musicians fed up with this practice. We want to thank each and every one of the people and bands who've left us this important feedback! You all rock! (Caution: salty language below!)

awesome, very glad you have this space. I’ll have some stories to share. . . bombasticide

You guys should routinely post this stuff in bulletins. I know better, but many young myspace bands don’t / Bobby Rviere.

I’ve been in this business for 30 years, been there done that is my legacy, I’m still here, thank you for what you do for the naieve! / Iggy Rae Vicious

hi! we are part of musik manifest, and wanted to thank u for the comment u posted! great job on ur site also!!! / Canton Is Hot


I just found out about Big Time. I was hit up by Amy @ Indianapolis. It didn’t look right to me so I googled and found you guys. I’m supporting. Beth Jones,

almost played. . . i mean payed a show in two weeks in tampa. thank you for this service. I LOVE TRUTH!!!!! / c9 tom mason

Bon you are my Hero! / August, aka Surly, formerly of the Earaches.

FUCK YEAH. I am so SICK of these douchebags. I’m currently in a back and forth exchange with one of these guys claiming he’s “empowering bands”. Shit./ Omega Monster Patrol

You are righteous people!! Keep up the good work! I’m with you all the way! / Rockin’ RoarnKatt from Latenitesinners. com! Check us out!!

Bon. Thank you so much for your time and research. I really enjoyed reading your site. Joe just contacted me from BIGTIME “Austin” haha. What a joke / Donny James (Austin TX)

I refuse to pay to play as well. Keep up the efforts. Considered unionizing our musicians? It works quite well in other cities. . ./ Kevin Carman

hey! great site. is this ran by Girl Trouble the band playing the house party in Hype?

fuck yeah. . we’re totally psyched that you’re getting this out there!/ Yum Yum and the Really Red Bus

Awesomeness!! We hate pay to play! We also run the grumpus room in tucson, you guys rock!! / Standard Diviance, Tucson

Good for you! These sucka’s just contacted me for the second time this week. I guess they make yearly rounds. -Marie Black

Pay to play, never ok! -Black Party Politics

You guys are great! We wish we would of read your profile a year ago!! Small time hustlers is what they are!!! / VW Trrainwreck

I’ve just posted a invite to 33,000 people to let them know about Big Time Entertainment. Thank you for posting your site. They tried to screw us too. / LoNero Guitarcore Originators

Pay to play sucks! / the Green Lady Killers, Phoenix AZ

Right on! Big Time totally sucks. / The Vignettes Portland Or

hey, i feel the same way about pay to play, plz add so i don’t have to write my own article. great job on the article btw -Twilights Horizon, Beaverton, OR

Amen! Your word is right on! Pay you to play is my policy. . . . best,/ DM/X-15

great site / Filfthy Habits

We’ve made the mistake of doing pay to play twice. Never again. Fucking outstanding site. Tim Fister -Uncle Fister

thought you guys might look into this one: http://www. myspace. com/battleofthebandsny -Charetta NY

Fucking awesome. I just went through an email battle with BigTime Ent. Yay

Hell yeah! We’re on the same page. No to pay to play. / Pink Lincoln, Spokane, WA

Hell yeah!!!/ nevereven, New York

We absolutely agree. . . . . . . ./ Grynch

fuck pay to play. thank you / M.A.C. Tucson, AZ

Love the Concept. Hard to do in this Tucson town. . . / phlegm of Conversation Suicide

You guys are great / Bench Grinder, Renton, WA

Great job!! I have so many bands contact me asking how to get paid and working with Supernova. They just get raped and violated. / Vancouver Independent Promotions -Vancouver, BC

I am SO happy to see somebody out there educating musicians about these pond-scumbags. Rock ON!! / NiNi [of Corvo] -Tulsa, International

right on!! / Mohave, Vancouver British Columbia

nice i like /Assfault14,

I agree with you. . . like your page! /Soraya from New Jersey

HELL EYAH BROTHER! / Ah Da Beyas, Oxnard CA

fuck ya we got fucked by gorilla productions / Only Nightmares, Eugene OR

Keep fighting the fight! Cheers, / the Corruptors.

Pay to Play is still wrong. It happens with some rarity here in NYC> / Kevin, NY

Yes, exactly. Any enemy of Gorilla Productions is a friend of ours. / The Schismatics, Baltimore

aye, type53, /baltimore, md

God bless! I hate that shit / Destruction Island, Tacoma, WA

youre doing a great job, I have been saying the same things for years. / Tombstoner, Vancouver WA/Portland

Cool page. Used to play in pay to play LA. / Surrounded by Breakers, Seattle WA

Excellent page!!! / Tunnel Drill, New England

You’re doing a great service /Blu Cymon, Omaha NE

Saw your website article about Big Time. /Acoustic Proleteriate, Denver, CO

Fuck Pay To Play. / Sarafan, Tucson AZ

100% support from Seven Inch Records. All our bands refuse Pay To Play and all our shows are DIY guaranteed pay, no pre ticket sale bullshit. / Seven Records, UK

The hell with Big Time Entertainment! Ryan is a cancer on the music industry. Fuck him! / the Decliners, Rose City OR

It’s a complete joke they took down your last page. More power to you! / Thee Graverobber, London, UK

fuck pay to play/ The Scandals Bayone NJ

amen / Calvinball, Sheffield, UK

Please add me. I agree with your message. Thanks. / John = Johnny Noize, Pittsburgh, PA

Hi. I’m UK based but just spent a few hours reading your commentry. Fascinating reading. Keep up the good work. / Ghostfire, UKEast and south London

you’re amazing. / Don’t Hurt Miles! Hyrule, US

Hey, add gorilla productions to that list, i’ve been fucked by them as a band, and as a studio operator. Keep fighting the good fight. thanks, / Luke from the band HOR, austin tx

The good fight, I believe this is called. . ./ The Cartographers, San Antonio TX

Great idea! If only we’d had good sense/a resource such as this before dealing with Gorilla Productions./ Muppet Fetish, Bellingham, WA

thank you!!! / jeannette (music), Austin TX

hey i have to say as a semi new musician that this is more than true. im so sick of paying to play. everything in those ten are absolutly true. / Brutal Guitarist, HR Tucson, AZ

I agree 100%!!! No musician should have to pay to perform!!!!! / Seattle Drummer

I love what you’re doing here. So many bands in this area give into this bullshit and I’m sick of it. Don’t support causes that dont support you! / Hanover Shows, Hanover, PA

I want to help you spread the word! I book shows and there is no reason in the world they should be paying to play! / Bleau Clothing, L.A.

Hello, I agree with you totally. My fiance’s singer is not listening to us about this problem. Sheryl, IA

Hey we’re from the UK but the same shit goes on here too. We’re with you. / Black fingers, Leicester, Midlands United Kingdom

We absolutely, 100% support this cause and here at The Mannville Arms we NEVER ask our artists to pay ONE SINGLE PENNY. / Bradford East, UK

awesome. thanks for doing this. / The Gunshy, Chicago, IL

Thank You!!!! / jonbeer, columbus oh

thank you / Thunderbird Motel, Seattle

I agree! I think its sleazy and whatever happened to earning your way? / Painfilled silent, Beltown tExas

AWESOME. 17 / colourful feathers, auburn, WA

You are so fucking right. / Irony, Seabeck, WA

I support this cause. Spread awareness! / The wrecktals, BC Canada

You rule for having this page. I have been saying this for years./ Enemy Camp, Seattle, WA

You guys are awesome. I love you. We will join your crusade. / League of Proper Musicians, Akron/Cleveland OH

WOW We’re Doing A Show For Big Time Next Sunday! Thanks For keep Us Informed About Whats Going On / Universal Soul, Pacific Northwest

You rock! We couldn’t agree more. :) / Lankershim, Apple Valley, CA

Right on. One of my profiles (of a band that hasn’t been in existence since ’97) got spammed by emergenza. currenlty in a funny back and forth wih / Go Pound Salt, Burbank CA

love what youre doing, keep it up. . . . these scurvy schiester bastages must be stopped!! / Gaza Strip, Tucson, AZ

I’m actually in a back and forth with the Big Time Rep for Va Beach, VA. / Versus the Universe, Virginia Beach, VA

hell yah / mthirteen SOCAL, CA

Thanks for the word getting out. / Doug The court jesters from San Antonio TX

BTE contacted me. SPAM! / Robert March, San antonio, tx

I’ve got to get you guys/gals in my top friends. /Age of Nefilim Spokane, WA

Keep up the good work. I’m trying to make people in my area realize the scam at hand. Shamefully, I know from experience./ Matt Spokane, WA

argh fuck big time ripoff. . . im pissed we are doing our first and only show with them this sunday at a club weve played 6 times without them Ice in her / Veins, Worcester, MA

Fuck ya! No to Pay to Play! Great page I knew i wasnt the only one who thought like that. / D?AD K?NNY[Rattus Norvegicus]

So we’ve dealt with Jam Solid Productions, and now Big Time Entertainment is contacting us, booking us a show on a lovely Sunday night. / Anatomical Gift, Rochester NY

good page. . im really against all this pay to play garbage. . its going on here in holland at the moment. . . and we just wont do it! / Power is Poison, Netherlands

Radio Rockets will NEVER pay to play! Bon, you are a true inspiration. Hope you like my new band. / Live Free - August Seattle

yeah good idea - pay to play is the sickest thing ever - done this as a teen with my first bands and it sucked. keep it going dudes. / Jan FITZCARRALDO bayen GERMANY

great battle, friends :) / Alessia - drummer The Spins / Torino Italy

HELLO FROM SACRAMENT I AM REALLY ENJOYING READING YOURE SITE I LOOK FORWARD TO READING MORE LATER THIS WEEK THX FOR SHARIN / Atombomb, Sacramento

Well done you guys! / Leaping Cat Records, Wales UK

I HAVE BEEN SAYIN THAT SHIT SINCE THE BEGINNING DAMMIT!!! / Chrodh Mara, Milwaukee, WI

My brothers band fell into this scam once. Totally appreciate what you have here. / Aaron DeMent

keep up the good work! / Samuel E. Dearmore, Spokane, WA

Important stuff for aspiring artists / Jeffrey Ft Collins, CO

Keep up the great work. I’m in the midst of arguing with my bands over this shit, ONCE AGAIN. / Viktor Wilt, Pocatello Idaho

Amen! / Jam Bernadino, san bernadino, CA

I had a bunch of bands tell me to check you guys out. we should work together to educate people. check my blogs about ticket sales === / littleben Seattle WA

we would luv to have u as a friend. check us out our story is in our blogs. we come from the hills of wv. help keep southern rock alive God Bless, / Blackhander, Shinston, WV

Rock on. . . The bands here get 100% of door. L:/ The Grail Rock Venue

GREAT page! / Calgary, chicago IL

wow, thanks for taking the time to do this! i’m starting to see some dayton, oh/area fall for this crap at the mad frog in cincinnati, oh. / Jay Madewell, Dayton OH

We’re with you on this! / Motorbreath, The NW premier Metalica tribute band, Portland OR

THANK YOU! i’m so glad someone is speaking out against the P2P scams!!! / Durv, Baltimore, MD

I LOVE YOUR CAUSE! / Nathan Francis Band, Seattle, WA

you got the right idea! / Bobcat Arkham, Wantagh, New York

yea word up fresh shit aka dope, / The Bug Catcher, Victoria Australia

I just went through Big Time and got screwed out of alot of money. . . Down with Pay to Play!!! / Cocko McGillicutty Clearwater, FL

NEVER PAY TO PLAY! /“Gee” Rabe, Culver city, CA

your website saved me from getting screwed by BTE. THANK YOU A MILLION TIMES! I was totally unaware of these bastards until now. / Gruvy Gruvenheimer, City of Boom, WA

couldn’t agree more!love Flipron Glastonbury, United Kingdom

There’s a new UK Manchester based anti-pay-to-play MySpace - I told them about you. Well done! / Glyn Bailey &The Many Splendid Things, Illawalla, Northwest United Kingdom

I actually qiut booking in the Blue Note in Cincinnati because I do not believe in presale tix! / Tammie Rooks / Rookie, A Snowbird Production, Cincinnati, OH

We don’t pay to play. sometimes we don’t play. / Pillsplitter, Lynnwood, WA

RIGHT ON! / Sonic Death Ray, Spokane, WA

FUCK YES!!! FUCK THOSE THIEVING BASTARDS THAT MAKE BANDS AND ARTISTS PAY TO PLAY!!! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!! YOU GUYS ROCK!!! / WWW. VX36. COM from VX36, California,Sac,Bay Area,Central Coast,Valley,etc.., California

Club Impact in Tacoma, WA made me sell tickets and sent me a bunch of spam emails. Check them out and add them to your list!!! / Mad Mardagin, Enumclaw, WA

you rock i wish there was more people like you / Gypsy King, (promoter) San Diego, CA

Loving your cause. Will you be our friend? x / Lyrebird, United Kingdom

Wow, REALLY refreshing to hear someone else share our point of view on this topic. Hate when artists, including us, get raped of their art! THANK YOU / Zero Hour, ONEONTA, New York

Yes!! I am with you on this big time! I am snagging your logo to link it on my page. Rock on! Vanessa, Grand Rapids, MI
salutes to you ladies. north americans just don’t know how to treat bands eh? europe sure does tho’! ;) / Mexican Power Authority, Victoria BC

FUCKING AWESOME!!. . . WE NAMED OUR FIRST TOUR “THE FUCK PAY TO PLAY TOUR”. . . . . WE ABHOR IT JUST THE SAME . . . . IT’S A FUCKING POISO / Seizure Crypt, Queens NY

thanks for this read, we were just involved in a p2p show, it was disappointing. / Panic the Brave, San Antonio, TX

wow,. . eye opening! we got scammed by gorilla productions because we were so eager to play our first show. / Harness, Portland, OR

fuck yeah!!! / the Pulse of Flashburn, Escondido, CA

This is GREAT !!! / Society High, Schnectady, NY

HELL YEAH! Promotion is the job of the PROMOTER- Not the bands. Thank you for standing up for all of us! / The Kings, Edmonds WA

Hi, I have a BTE Pay-To-Play horror story. Crazy thing is that a lot of bands in FL don’t care, because this is normal practice. Crazy! / Marc occam’s razor/Marc Ganancias, Lakeland, FL

Great Site. Keep up the good work. / A Small Town, Los angeles, CA

I am so freakin glad somebody had the brains to say this! / Platte River Sand, Nebraska

Found your site; after doing some research on BTE because my friends are all booked in a local show. Thanks for taking the time to educate. blessings / Quiet Entertainer, Nashville, TN

fuck bigtime / DJ Xquisit, (Quienten Coleman) Huntsville, AL

big time is a total joke, we played a show for them we did work ours asses off to play a lame tuesday night gig and they just sat back collect $ sux / Joe, Everett WA

Hey, I just found out about your site. It’s refreshing to know other bands are taking a stand against this, and to my suprise more than i thought. / Moon Hoax Theory, Long Island, NY

we FULLY support your cause. / Memory of a Melody, San Antonio, TX

Cool page, great cause! :) / Spencer Blake, Edmonton, Alb, Canada

Good stuff! I see you have The Organ among your top friends. I used to buy their mag and a comp cassette in the mid 90’s. KEEP ON KEEPING ON PEOPLE! / Motorhead Malc, London, UK

finally people helping musicians. I hate pay to plays and the bands always suck that play them because they are ignorant people who don’t have brains! / Yarn Owl, Pullman, WA

hey!! im happy i stumbled into your space. Your right. . . alot of musicians get ripped off by venues. thanks for providing more details!!! / LA FEMINISTA BARRANQUITA ES PUNK, UN REBEL Oax, California

agreed, nice work / KHZ, New York, NY

Thank you so much for what you are doing! / Matt - up to something, Jacksonville, FL

Count us in! Good job, nothing pisses me off more than someone taking advantage of young people. thanks, / Joe Motor Seattle WA

fuckin ‘a bro, / EGODEMIC, Eugene, OR

I agree, paying to play is BS!!! / The Sonic Messiah, Kenosha, WI

Right on!! / Freedom Hawk, Tidewater, VA

We agree with you guys. / Spear Induced Carnage, Vancouver, WA

yeah 1k entertainment use too be jam solid , and they ripped everyone off they held a battle of the bands , and didnt even show up to judge the show???? BUT THERE WAS SOMEONE THERE TO STEAL THE TICKET $$ FROM EVERYONE ... it was the biggest scam ever!!!! / IPEKAK, Columbus, OH

thank you for being here to educate young musicians. I was almost swindled, but I googled my scammer and found your site. THANK YOU. / Troxum, Lubbock, TX

AWESOME INFO!!! I’ll make sure to pass this on to my boys in SpinalCracker! / ToddDammitt, edgewood, wa

I agree,/ Stella Luce, Colorado

thanks for getting the word out. / Painted Saints, Minneapolis, MN

like your DIY way of doing Still DIY / Jon, Beng Beng Cocktail, france

very cool site you’ve put together to warn bands of the pay to play stuff/ OSIRUS, Houston, TX

yo good message, im down / Auamoti,Kansas city, KS

thanks so much. your advice has been so helpful! / Angels N Bullets, Denver/Aurora, CO

Fuck yes, vital information, / Babona, Denver, CO

this plagues us all,/ They Fall to Pieces, MASSAPEQUA, New York

Diggin ur site. . . . thanks for the info / Argus Eye, Rochester, NY

Ah, yes. We totally hate all of those promoters, too. I feel that we are united in our fury./ The Somnambulists, Denver, CO

It’s Brett from Ball and Chain. I run this joint now. Any bands looking for a gig on L. I. this is the place. / The Riff, Port Jefferson, NY

Found your page after Aftonlive contacted me. Thank you for all of your insights. Happy Holidays. . . / Mike A. Michael Alfather, Farmington MI.

Pay to play is Bullshit 4sure!!!!!We agree with you 110% / THRONE OF MALEDICTION, Deliverance, MT

Love your page! People and especially bands need to be educated on the pay to play issue. I applaud you! / To The Sea, Phoenix, AZ

fuck mile high productions, we live 4 hours away and made us pay 400 bucks to play / Angelic Deficiency North West Colorado

CHEERS to you guys for doing this. . . . P2P is a disease here in Boston and everywhere, thanks for putting the info out there. Cheers, / Jordan, Boston, MA

AMEN!!! / Relentless, Maryland

Totally agree. If bands would stop doing it it would leave the club no choice but to stop this practice. / Shell Shock, New York, NY

great concept, this shit is going on in my small college town and disgusts me / GlamTastik?Grahamtastic?(simply fantastic), Columbia MO

yea fuck pay to play / WWEFAN123/ROHFAN123 VALLEY STREAM-AKA- V-Tone, New York

I will not pay to play! / Siamese Intersection, Encinitas, California

Right on! / Will Richards, Wakefield, UK

I found you guys when I when I was looking on the internet for information about 'Afton Live. ' This was a big help, thanks! Joe / LMLC (Last Martyrs of a Lost Cause (HAS NEW SONGS!)), Philadelphia, PA

you are so right, / The Venditos, Oklahoma

I'm glad I'm not the only one out there that feels this way./ Danny Patterson, Houston, TX

Hell yea! This is the most bad ass thing i've seen on here! We were wondering if anybody else noticed these guys screwin bands! RIGHT ON! / WHITE ARMS OF ATHENA, Mesquite, TX

Afton hit me up. Thanks for sticking up for bands. I'm deleting them now. / Fresh Hot Lint, Pryor, OK

wow, we definatly got screwed with this stuff. IM glad we found out sooner than later. / A Secret Sound, PINEVILLE, North Carolina

Afton phished my Myspace account. / Thomas Mundahl, Minneapolis, MN

Soylent Green is made out of Afton bookers. . . . it's Afton bookers!!!!! / Tom, Bunge, Minnepolis, MN

I love you. Right on!!! / Reno Loner, Gobel, OR

Thanks for the info. Our old drummer's band was ripped off $700 last year with a Gorila Prod. thing and they just contacted us this year as well. / Decent into Madness, Houston TX

Thanks for the info, we were just contacted by Gorilla Prods. / HoustonMusicReviews, Houston TX

WORD! FUCK PAY TO PLAY! / Random Orbits, Seattle, WA

spot on, / Gio Cruz, GÖTEBORG, Västra Götalands län Sweden

pay to play blows!!!!!!! /-Our Own Blood, Portland Oregon

I wanted to say thank you for the site and info. Our band recently has been contacted by afton but we've decided not to participate. / Blackbird Orchestra, Seattle WA

Agreed! / Session Three, Vancouver, WA

hello we are a band/artist and we get that alot / Black Metal Warriors, Kennewick, WA

good statement / Shake the Feeling, Orange, CA

Love your site!! Preach the gospel!! We are with you. . Loud and clear. . THANX FOR STEPPING UP W/THE TRUTH!! , / CHRIS ( UAG ) Unknown Amongst Gods, Everett, WA

pay to play = big scam. we got a bit of that shit going on here in Toronto, too, but most people pass along word about that and manage to avoid it. / MacKenzie King, Toronto Canada

Rage, rage against the scams . . ./ For The Hard Way, Ontario, CANADA

I support your cause and Thank You for taking a stand to prevent help performers from getting ripped off. I wish you the best and hope you will approve me / Michael Brown, Louisiania

The Cincinnati booker tried to go after me. What a bunch of money hungry assholes. Thanks for letting musicians know the truth before it is too late. / Georgetown, US

We love how you think!!! ---/ I am Evil (Evil Geniuz - booking company Twilight Theater) Portland, OR

We got Burned by BTE Before we knew any better. Keep Up What your Doing!!! / Eyeshot, Fairborn, OH

so true our local venue, the rave, will make bands pay huge amounts of money, then have them play while other locals or even headliners are playing. / Sleep Serapis Sleep, Milwaukee, Wisconsin

Big Time Entertainment is a bunch of tool bags. / Unpaid Dues, Richmond, VA

fuck pay to play!! Thanks for your site! / Wheel Chair Willie and the Stairs, Virginia Beach, VA

i agree entirely! having had experience with both afton and emergenza. / Will Knox, London & New York

fuck pay to play! we are with ya brothers, / Be My Grave, Seattle, WA

ONE HUNDRED PERCENT AGREE WITH STAYING AWAY FROM PAY TO PLAY!! THANK YOU FOR THIS PROFILE! EXCELLENT / Flight Orchestra, Oakland, CA

I agree! / Gary Rinaldi, Los Angeles, Ca

NO PAY TO PLAY!!!! / Lee Dee, New York, New York

PREACH ON! / Axe Bitch, Moyock, NC

These dudes (Mike, who's working Boston now) offered us a crap show. . . I may have been too nice when I turned it down, since now they've sent deta, / Chin Strap, Boston, MA

ABsolutely! / SANJURO, London, UK

Wow!!! Im glad sombody is setting bands free from this sham!!! Thank You!!! / KESERA, Brunswick, ME

I've been a working musician for 20 years and NEVER have paid to play (nor will I). BIG thanks for your efforts, guys. / Dave Osborne, Lyman, ME

Outrageous, come to Scotland, play for free, stay at mines! Good luck in ridding the world of this nonsense! / Jace Thompson, North Edinburgh Sobriety, EMBRA Scotland

you guys rock. . ./ Jack Havoc, Sequim, WA

Let's get this worked out! / Community chest, Richmond, VA

This Afton campaign has moved to the east coast. . Contact me and I'll help fight against this! / Plaza Bowl, Richmond, VA

we love you! / Plagued Remains, Dayton, OH

great site! These people are scumbags. / Dissolute, Akron, OH

I really believe in your cause and appreciate all the information. . . I would like to post you as a top friend. / The Toolshed Massarce, Jenkintown, PA

FUCK YEAH!!! THANK YOU!!!! / Deathbeat, Seattle, WA

keep up the good work! / Snap-Her, Bushkill, PA

I feel you, hence me booking $3 all age shows. LETS FUCKING DO THIS!!!!!!!FUCK PAY TO PLAY. / Patience Loves the Bouncing Souls, Patience Connor, New York, NY

dude, we did one show with big time and we will never do one again / Ranofer, Seattle,WA

i made good use of the emergenza festival last week. thought you'd enjoy. http://www. youtube. com/watch?v=ivg_kelQnQk / Lee Barbour, Brooklyn, NY

right the fuck on. / The Haddonfields, St Louis, MO

HAILS! My name is BJ Annette. I"m the vocalist for Dying to Bleed. I am also Captain for NYDM/WADM. This is a local problem too. Love to talk more / BJ - NYDM/WADM CAPTAIN - PWFL/ Seattle, WA

We're top friending you guys. / This Is A Stickup, CANANDAIGUA, New York

Its about time somebody is saying it! / co_conspirator, Akron, OH

ha. happened to my band when we first started out. oooops. / Joe Raffa, Londonderry, NH

We have a bunch of this crap in kalllispell every summer the last time they took the money from the kids and didnt even set up the show. / Grave Yard Girl Scouts, Kalispell, MT

Fuck yeah! / Florida Grind Alliance, Dayton Beach, FL

thank you so much for this site! / CFLbands.com, Sanford, FL

We have the same problem over here in the UK. We appreciate what you're doing. And we don't pay to play, ever. / Fatty Chan, Exeter, Southwest, UK

yes way! / the Furs, Luray, VA

great information! / The Perfects, Hampden (Baltimore), Maryland

Hey, Alessandro here. . . as promised. Kinda raw still but it's a good start. Cheers from the third world! / Alessandro, Manila, Philippines

Consider us in, and thanks! / CyberCity Productions, LAKE ELSINORE, California

Thanks for existing - you totally saved me some trouble and heartache! / Rachel Schain, Wilmington, Delaware

FUCK PAYING 2 PLAY!!! I WANNA JOIN THA MOVEMENT. . . . FUCK AFTON BYT THA WAY LOL! UNDERGROUND ARTIST MUST STICK 2GETHER!!! PERBZILLA I$ THA QUEEN CITY... NOW RUNTELLDAT!!!!! / PErbzilla, Charlotte, NC

everything you say in this page is true! thanks for helping warn bands! / MecanizM Vocals, Chicago, IL

You are doing a great thing. / Outside Soul, Raleigh, NC

YES. / The Red Lights, NY, NY

You are exactly what we are about. / The Headquarters, MONROEVILLE, Pennsylvania

thank you. for having this./ THE HOI HOI HOI EXPERIENCE, Cheyenne, Wyoming

we are protesting the pay to play companies in new orleans and are in negotiations with the clubs who book them spread the good news! / Jay Pilipovich, Jay Polo Live Sunday at the Howlin’ Wolf, New Orleans, LA

keep fighting the good fight! / Squid Jag, Slackelaide, South Australia

Nice work building this page. . . I know we all appreciate your message! / Pete Monstruo (MONSTRUO), State College, PA

good work, way to go / Pete Herzog, Oregon

we have been stuck paying many times(yikes) we even sold tickets for out of state shows. . . it can suck on my wallet! / Liquified Guts, PITTSBURGH, Pennsylvania

We book in central/Northeast Pennsylvania. No pay to play here. Every band leaves with gas money if not more.
/ Triarchy Media Group, Bloomsburg, Pennsylvania

here here man / Mr. What?, livingisdone, Montana

*glad we're not the only ones who feel that way* / Kill the Commonwealth, RICHMOND, Virginia

Yes! / (A.O.F.)ROB(S.w/ M.) Rob Lewis from Axis of Fear, Everett, WA

so glad someone is saying it! / Axis of Fear, Seattle, WA

Thank you Thank you Thank you! Great page! / Mod Amish, San Diego, CA

YES! / Electric Vectors, Phoenix, AZ

Great page! You have my 100% support! Support local music, don't exploit it!! Yay, Girl Trouble! / Radio Free Seattle Presents, Seattle, WA

It's not just pay-to-play in Phoenix. It's the "promoters" in general that are ruining the scene. Bands are cattier and the whole thing sucks balls / Thankful Birds, Phoenix, AZ

Thank you. / Soul Cannon, Baltimore, MD

Totally agree!! / ACWM Club, Manchester, NW UK

This has been part of my philosophy since I started doing shows. Count me in. / Worm Quartet, Rochester, MA

my hubby's in a band who has paid. . . imma put you in my top. . . I told him that was bullshit / Bitch...please!, Lake Jackson, TX

Good advice on your page! The name of the game is great music and patience. Too many artist and not enough heart. . ./ D.Carrera Music Entertainment Presents... (D.Carrera music D.Carrera music), Sacramento, CA

I so agree with your site. Only bands that pay to play are kids with money, not kids with talent. / Dancin Chuck, Akron, OH

Ditto! Fuck that shit! NYC Dakini loves rock & roll and your page! / NYC Dakini, New York City, NY

good call / .:keith LCN, Sterling, Massachusetts

right on! / andrew shepherd, cuyahoga falls, Ohio

We're with you! i don't like Gorilla prod. they haven't done me wrong but they have wronged some of my bandmates and friends, & i don't wanna be next / Everlasting God Stopper, Columbus, Ohio

Much mutual support! / Key of V, Williamsport, PA

Not only is it the scam "booking companys" Some venues will really screw bands over. They're pulling the same play to play tricks, As the spammers! / Vince Hogan, Dade City, FL

SUUPPORT!!!! / VII Arcano, Roma, ITALY

best fucking profile ever sign me up. . . . . . ./ 13 Pills, Milwaukee, WI

Gorilla Productions does this bullshit, put those fuckers on the list! / The Weird Kids, Worcester, MA

Pay to play killed MetalFest in Milwaukee. / Oldrock Productions, Milwaukee, WI

hells YEAH! / SootheSayers, Eugene, OR

Great site you have-- great info-- we know all about that shit, unfortunately. Keep rockin'! / Baby Vamp, Denver, CO

we love what your doing. / The Mhurs, Belleville, Illinois, St.louis, Missouri

awesome! This site needed to be up a looonnng time ago!!! St. Louis, Missouri

Amen and Amen. I retired from the Atlanta music scene many years ago because of the pay to play deal. / Morning Velcro (Official) , PERRY, Georgia

and how.../ Humbucker Studios, MAURY CITY, TENNESSEE

We must freind up a good cause, / Bar Amp, Northwest United Kingdom

selling presale tix IS a pain in the ass. ./ Captives Come Home, Naples, NY

Great Stuff! - I have got emails and calls from some of these promoters and found it a bit strange. Now I know the deal, I agree 100% / Critical Mouse, Norfolk, VA

I'm going to put you in our top friends. Great job here! Lots to say, not enough space. I'll send a message. I'd love to work with you & help support! / The Complete Sell-Out Project, St Louis, MO

Ditto that. . . down with pay to play! / Wynnsorforce, A-Town, IL

thanks for the info. Afton contacted me and I really was about to see what they was about. / Microphone Criminal, Philadelphia, PA

THE BEST FOR YOU,,,CHEERS,,FREDOOM,RESPECT,,PEACE,,HAPPINESS,,SEX AND PUNK ROCKKKKKKK /The Judas Bunch, Stockholm, SWEDEN

YOU SPEAK THE TRUTH! Excellent message and thank you for trying to get the word out about these bullshit companies taking advantage of bands! / Attack Ships On Fire, Portland, OR

i support you, and now im going to cancel the hotbox show we have booked. . . such a scam, / 4 The Win, Etobicoke, Ontario Canada

This cancer is spreading in the Lehigh Valley area as well. We've reluctantly done it because it was the only way we could get shows, but no more. / Machina Infernus, BETHLEHEM, Pennsylvania

Yo, you guys are really cool, I have been feeling rwally annoyed at many of my friends' bands for a long time about doing shows like these. Jake / The Ardmore Assault, ARDMORE, Pennsylvania

We agree! / The Percocetts, Philadelphia, PA

yea! / Shakin’ Michael J, Seattle/Vermont

It's good to see someone working to make sure people know about all of the predatory "agents" in the industry! Keep it up! -- / Tim / Level Zero, Spokane, WA

Great site! /Keefe, Bothell, WA

HAILS. I agree with this page as I was one of those young musicians who fell for this bullshit and never understood why noone ever came out. / Merodach (Enki Enlil), Suburbs, CO

very nice very nice!!! / LED TO THE GRAVE, Cape Cod/Boston, Massachusetts

awesome work / Hello Gaia, AURORA, Colorado

Illumina Records is a scam. Spread the word!! Top friend me. / The Illumina Records scam page,NY

Hell Yeah. Thanks for keeping your music scene viable and progressive and calling people out. I appreciate that as a gigging musician. / SOLITO ~ it’s Italian for the Shitz, Sylva, North Carolina

cool bon! thanks for making this site. yep, I agree. gotta work on the 5(not 2) drink ticket site now. Hee Hee- / dan Mollybolt, Portland, OR

Thank you! !@#$ YEAH!, / Wayne Gracy Trio,

Jam Solid and Concerts first fucked us over! / The Sub Gens, Renton, WA

salutes from vegas / Mikey (Mike Haddad), Hendershitty, NV

WE LOVE YOU. JUST READ THAT RECENT BLOG. OMG ---THAT IS CLASSIC! / The Fun Police, Tacoma WA

Just read the blog about the BS tour Levi and XIL put together - plz Add us. . . Thanks!, / Big Wheel Stunt Squad, Gig Harbor, WA

Big ups from the Pacific Northwest!! / Get Down Moses, Seattle, WA

Great myspace! Love the information and the way you word everything. Thank you! / -Lauren Kendall

Girl Trouble Rocks!/ J Mac Cadillac, Tacoma, WA

so glad to have people to spread some much needed knowledge between the up and coming musicians / Robert Westchester(looking for musicians!) (Alex Sims) Illinois

Saw the blog about the pay-to-play tour, via a guy named Lonny. Thanks for sharing that story, my condolences go to the bands who suffered through it. / Shumfpozj... L?mtz Shumfpozj., Das Unterseeboot, Washington

"the dude abides" / Trevor, Tacoma WA

Hell fucking yeah! I've been preaching this for years - it's amazing how many bands will argue with me about it! Rock on girl trouble rock on! / Hipnautica, Austin, TX

Right on they almost had us last year ! / ULTIMATUM, ALBUQUERQUE, New Mexico

Right on!!! / The Drews, Washington state

We live in LA and the ptp is a virus out here. Keep fighting the good fight. . . ./ J-bird (jay mangano), Burbank, CA

Unfortunately we are playing a show with Afton tonight but it will be our only as I found out about them today!! / 61 Trees, Elk Grove, CA

I'm a struggling musician and I'm truely happy that I'm not the only person on the planet who thinks Pay-to-Play is the worst thing ever. / DeadEarth (Eric-Christian Alexander), BAY SHORE, New York

FUCK PAYING TO PLAY!!!!! / FIVE-0-HATE PRODUCTIONS (Patrick O'Connell)

Way to speak up on this bullshit. Fuck big time entertainment and the rest of those scumbags. / No Me Importa (Monty Owen Ii), Tempe Arizona

Hell yes my friend! / Tommy OneTime, Seattle, WA

I SAW YOU ON JOHN WILKES BOOTH PAGE. IM IMPRESSED WITH YOUR PAGE AND DEDICATION! , / HMETALNYMETSVAL Valerie Steiner, ELMONT-FLORAL PARK , New York

really love you spreading the word and helping bands out! / Fangs Out, Toledo, OH

yes / REZZWORTH, Belgium

Good site! / Infinite Aggression Selma, California

Keep up the good work guys, new and upcoming artists need to be more aware of this kind of stuff. / ABOVE THE ASHES [HEADLINING JAMMIN' JAVA DEC 27TH] (Above the Ashes)

HATED NOISE AGREES PAYIN TO PLAY IS A CROCK O' SHIT!!!! / Hated Noise, Seattle, WA

Good work!!! / AblaZ (Ablaz Official), Duisburg, Nordrhein-Westfalen Germany

the skateboard and snowboard community is behind you 100 percent! keep up the good work. loved your story on the xil tour, we all got a kick out of it, SAVES (Saves Clothing), Seattle, WA

cool /AP Zoutes, TACOMA, Washington

Heard from Afton Live about Dallas gigs. Research led me to you on MySpace. / Ken Turetzky, Dallas, TX

yeah! there's tons of this crap going on in vancouver with companies like spm productions and sspr. screw these lazy asses! / defektors, Vancouver, BC Canada

AMEN! FUCK AFTON! THANK YOU FOR GIVING THE LITTLE GUYS A VOICE! / Period 6, Chicago, IL

Preach on. . ./ T.Jay Rocket, Seattle, Washington

Great Page! Songs by Marty, Seattle, WA

Thanks for breakin it down and keepin it real! We have also been dooped by P2P such as emergenza. Were 3+ years and shootin for the stars!! ROCK ON! / the Devil Himself, Santa Cruz, CA

NO WAY DONT PAY! / Babylon Dub punks, Edinburgh, Scotland

Any tips on how to avoid the B. S. ? / a.k.a. White Devil, Roseburg, Oregon

BigTime is now known as Aftonlive. com / R. Stangland, Portland, OR

hey, local philly band almost scammed by afton, thanks for your page! / SQUARE WAVE, WYNDMOOR, Pennsylvania

shit, almost scammed by afton. . thanks for your page! / magoni, Wyndmoor, Pennsylvania

I'm with you, Bon! And Sonicbids can eff-off too!!! / THE LAUNDRONAUTS, Vancouver, BC Canada

Just completed the Emergenza Festival in NY. I know what you mean! / Benita Charles Music, NEW YORK, New York

I couldn't agree more! / Ryan Dustan, Tacoma, WA

Just got hit up by afton guy. Researched and found your page. Thanks for the info. / Tim Kelley, Douglasville, GA

We totally aggree on the no pay to play. / BarnDog Promotions, Tulsa OK

We thought you might dig it…New music from Seattle. fuck paying to play! / End of the Night, Seattle, WA

Amen to the message. / Johnny Coffin, (J. Black), Tulsa, OK

No pay to play. Alpha dog loves this / Alpha Dog, Tulsa, OK

Hey Looks like were into the same thing and im sure we can help each other out :) /Music IS Free - www.musicisfree.org, Manchester, England

yes i do / SOY CALIFA ., Belgium

From the band MEATGOAT. And I AGREE with you guys. / SIX, Dallas, TX

Any suggestions on how to book real shows? / The Madcap Heart, Westland, MI

Thank you for what you do! / WhAAM! @ the Old Foundry (Whatcom All-ages Arts Music), Bellingham, WA

F pay to play!!/ Hawk Attack, LOUISVILLLE, Colorado

Hell yeah, brothers!/ The Guitars, Harrison, OH

Think you'll like this night we're putting on. Take a gander at our statement of intent. First one on 5th Sept./ Joyride, Northwest, United Kingdom

Yeah, Stay Away from Pay to Play! / Anonymous Horses, Seattle WA

thanks for the info on BTE they just sent me so thank u / Poet, GWYNN OAK, Maryland

we are former victims of the pre-sale garbage / We are erased, englewood, Colorado

can you help point me in the direction of some venues in the capitol, that also agree with the DONT pay to play policy ?? great work! /-tom Mustav, Richmond, Virginia, US

keep fightin the good fight! we never play to pay! / funhouse, Denver, Co

ust played second gig ever and it was a pay-to-play. . . Last time ever. . . pain in the ass. . . / Kill A Drifter, Collinsville, IL

Awesome site, we need this in Orlando. / Dish, DeLand, FL

Hell yeah! / Rockabye Ransom, Cleveland, Ohio

Awesome!!!!! Great Cause!!! / Hollerado, Manotick Canada

hey your doing a good thing! fuck pay to play promoters, vegas is full of them / Empirical, Las Vegas, NV

hello! please add us to your top friends, adn we'll do the same. cheers! so pleased to meet like minded folk / Sing A Song For Sixpence Campaign, Glasgow Scotland

keep doing wot you are,brilliant / The tenemants Glasgow, Scotland

This is amazing! Keep it up man. / Deathmocracy, Seattle, WA

I always try to explain this to other bands. Thanks for putting this page together and spreading the word. / Dragonship, Richmond, Virginia

Wish i would have seen your page before we booked with gorilla hahaha. . . keep up the good work. / The Royal Atlantic, WANTAGH, New York

FUCK YEAH! / The Fearless, New York, NY

Great organization. . . . We're 100% behind you! / Western Civ, Chapel Hill, NC

This myspace is fantastic!! I've found it very inspirational. (And quite informative. :]) I read all the blog posts this afternoon. / Lurch, Ithaca, NY

I LOVE YOU GUYS!!!! FINALLY. . . . . . . Someone who understands that promotion has gotten COMPLETELY backwards. / Tim Serdynski, Orlando, FL

viva la revolution! / The Grand Royale, Tucson, AZ

thanks for the info on afton guys keep doing what you do! / Seth, Pembroke, MA